Please ID: sphere with spikes
Please ID: sphere with spikes
It is about 30 µm in diameter, spherical, with spikes all over its surface. Many thanks for any suggestions. [40x objective, oblique illumination].
Edit: It just occurred to me that this could well be a grain of pollen?
Edit: It just occurred to me that this could well be a grain of pollen?
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Grain of pollen is the first thing that occurred to me. Where's John when you need him?
Cheers,
Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
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Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67904872@ ... 912223623/
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Many thanks, Kurt. Yes, we do need John .KurtM wrote:Grain of pollen is the first thing that occurred to me. Where's John when you need him?
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Very nice - certainly looks like a pollen-grain to me, also the right size.
If I had to guess I'd probably say Compositae, perhaps a Daisy - although Compositae doesn't narrow it down that much, but the size is dead mid-range too. A lucky find of a spiny gem!
If I had to guess I'd probably say Compositae, perhaps a Daisy - although Compositae doesn't narrow it down that much, but the size is dead mid-range too. A lucky find of a spiny gem!
John B
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Very nice! No idea what it is though.
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Beautiful image Gekko.
The spikes are really well captured. Thanks for showing it.
Rod
The spikes are really well captured. Thanks for showing it.
Rod
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zzffnn and Rod, thank you very much for your comments.
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Hi Gekko,
WOW!.. That is very good!..
BillT
WOW!.. That is very good!..
BillT
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Hi Guy's,
Pollen grain???? Not so sure as none of the exine is showing and the points in a circular position and not fully covering the cell.
I would look into the species Staurastrum it might be a specimen of the type. I think its connected to the desmid dominated sample of plankton. There are over 1,000 species. This is lateral thinking.
Just had another thought (this is getting out of hand) could it be a Protozoa???
See ex-marines can think outside the box but it's not very often. so it's back to the drawing board.
All the best.
Pollen grain???? Not so sure as none of the exine is showing and the points in a circular position and not fully covering the cell.
I would look into the species Staurastrum it might be a specimen of the type. I think its connected to the desmid dominated sample of plankton. There are over 1,000 species. This is lateral thinking.
Just had another thought (this is getting out of hand) could it be a Protozoa???
See ex-marines can think outside the box but it's not very often. so it's back to the drawing board.
All the best.
Thank you
Best regards
exmarine
uses Watson 'Service' 1950 compound.
uses Watson Stereo 1960 ish.
Best regards
exmarine
uses Watson 'Service' 1950 compound.
uses Watson Stereo 1960 ish.
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
It'll be interesting to see if we are able to nail it, it could well be something other than pollen.
I think an exine is definitely clear though, if that's what it is, as the points themselves are part of it - see here re the 'Thale-Cress' - the 'Botanical Guinea Pig' as it's often called..
http://www.plantcell.org/content/24/11/4311.short
I also think I see a 3D arrangement of those spikes, limited by the depth of focus of course, and further when out of focus, by their lack of colour - which may in itself count against this being pollen? Hard to tell but very interesting.
Definitely unable to be certain that's for sure!
hmm, is it correct to say that Staurastrum have a strong bilateral constriction (isthmus)? I can't see evidence of this either - the plot thickens in this adventure!
I think an exine is definitely clear though, if that's what it is, as the points themselves are part of it - see here re the 'Thale-Cress' - the 'Botanical Guinea Pig' as it's often called..
http://www.plantcell.org/content/24/11/4311.short
I also think I see a 3D arrangement of those spikes, limited by the depth of focus of course, and further when out of focus, by their lack of colour - which may in itself count against this being pollen? Hard to tell but very interesting.
Definitely unable to be certain that's for sure!
hmm, is it correct to say that Staurastrum have a strong bilateral constriction (isthmus)? I can't see evidence of this either - the plot thickens in this adventure!
John B
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The games afootthe plot thickens in this adventure!
BTW, nice image Gekko.
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Many thanks to all for your comments.
exmarine, thank you for your comments. The 2-dimensional image cannot show this, but the object is spherical and the "spikes" cover the whole surface of the sphere. I could see that clearly when looking through the eyepieces even as I could not show it in the 2D image. I am not sure how the wall of a pollen grain would appear under the microscope, but, having focused all through its depth, I don't think this is Staurastrum ( https://vimeo.com/124983571 ). I know it is difficult to tell from a 2D image, but having examined it by focusing through it, I'll have to agree with Kurt and John. Thanks again.
exmarine, thank you for your comments. The 2-dimensional image cannot show this, but the object is spherical and the "spikes" cover the whole surface of the sphere. I could see that clearly when looking through the eyepieces even as I could not show it in the 2D image. I am not sure how the wall of a pollen grain would appear under the microscope, but, having focused all through its depth, I don't think this is Staurastrum ( https://vimeo.com/124983571 ). I know it is difficult to tell from a 2D image, but having examined it by focusing through it, I'll have to agree with Kurt and John. Thanks again.
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It's a lovely image for certain, the shades of green are truly beautiful! Your focus is so sharp also - the spines look very sharp indeed. It's great when something unexpected pops up in a sample - this one will remain a mystery but great fun pondering my friend. Thanks for the interesting post.
John B
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Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Hello Apo' - yes it looks a prime candidate old chap.apochronaut wrote:sunflower pollen.
https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/33223/view
John B
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Many thanks, apochronaut: I think that's it! That is exactly what it looked like under the microscope.apochronaut wrote:sunflower pollen.
https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/33223/view
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I thought of pollen from the cotton crop, but gekko's may be a bit small ... plus, it's been a while since I looked at cotton pollen...
http://whyfiles.org/2011/cotton-pollination/
Check it out -- Environmental Scanning Electron Microscope?! COOL, I want one!!
http://whyfiles.org/2011/cotton-pollination/
Check it out -- Environmental Scanning Electron Microscope?! COOL, I want one!!
Cheers,
Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67904872@ ... 912223623/
Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67904872@ ... 912223623/
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
Yes, very cool (the link that apochronaut gave was also to an SEM image). It certainly looks like a cotton pollen also, although I think sunflower is more likely (our neighbors have sunflowers in their yard). Either way, it is a pollen. Thank you.KurtM wrote:I thought of pollen from the cotton crop, but gekko's may be a bit small ... plus, it's been a while since I looked at cotton pollen...
http://whyfiles.org/2011/cotton-pollination/
Check it out -- Environmental Scanning Electron Microscope?! COOL, I want one!!
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Well you're on to something with that line of reasoning for sure: If you think it's pollen and wonder what from, take a good look around where the sample was drawn from. If you're surrounded by sunflowers, and not cotton fields, then the answer's a no-brainer, as they say.
Now I know gekko had no need for me to come along and elucidate the situation, but I say it for the benefit of beginners and others who never really gave pollen much thought. Pollen is such a wonderfully great subject of study for anyone with a microscope that I just had to say it.
Now I know gekko had no need for me to come along and elucidate the situation, but I say it for the benefit of beginners and others who never really gave pollen much thought. Pollen is such a wonderfully great subject of study for anyone with a microscope that I just had to say it.
Cheers,
Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67904872@ ... 912223623/
Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67904872@ ... 912223623/
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
It could also be a zygospore, there are many algae having spiky zygospore. Just a thought.
Rylander
Rylander
Re: Please ID: sphere with spikes
It also fits the image - interesting and definitely possible - I found an interesting web-site looking for information re algal zygospores - the 'diploid version' (having a full set of chromosomes after fertilization) of a spore.Rylander wrote:It could also be a zygospore, there are many algae having spiky zygospore. Just a thought.
Rylander
Here's a link to a very interesting source of information.. http://www.peoi.org/Courses/Coursesen/bot/bot15.html
Thanks for the lead Rylander.
John B
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Many thanks, Rylander: a zygospore certainly looks very possible, for example:
http://www.mushroomthejournal.com/great ... os581.html (scroll down to the bottom of the page)
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8
I wonder if the size would help determine which it might be.
Thanks again .
http://www.mushroomthejournal.com/great ... os581.html (scroll down to the bottom of the page)
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8
I wonder if the size would help determine which it might be.
Thanks again .