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Thin sections are not going to happen with a carrot peeler...

#1 Post by carlh6902 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:00 pm

Microinspector-

The compound scope you have, by its very nature, has very limited depth of field, and sections need to be EXCEEDINGLY thin. A carrot peeler is not even close.

But that's half the fun of this hobby, learning proper microtechnique.

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#2 Post by MicroInspector » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:44 pm

In bio lab don't they put a virus in something so they can thin slice it on the micro shaver
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#3 Post by billbillt » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:36 pm

MicroInspector wrote:In bio lab don't they put a virus in something so they can thin slice it on the micro shaver

NO..

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#4 Post by MicroInspector » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:11 pm

Please tell me how could thinly sliced a virus?
You those machines in labs that thinly sliced spiecemens for use with a microscope
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#5 Post by rnabholz » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:36 pm

MicroInspector wrote:Please tell me how could thinly sliced a virus?
You those machines in labs that thinly sliced spiecemens for use with a microscope
Virus's range from 20 to 400 Nanometers in size.

An experienced user like John can sometimes manage to use a microtome to make cuts of 1 micron which equals 1000 nanometers in thickness.

I am not aware of any machine that uses a blade that can cut a virus, and short of a scanning electron microscope, I don't know how you could see the result in any case.

You would be better served to expend any energy putting together that razor blade slicer and starting with plants. That is easily within the reach of a beginner and his available equipment and microscope.

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#6 Post by MicroInspector » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:46 pm

Maybe next if some one can make me 1 here from the forum.
And pay for it.

Next month....
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#7 Post by rnabholz » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:19 pm

If $1 is beyond your means and you expect someone else to assemble 3 razor blades and a binder clip for you, I am afraid I have reached the point where your demands are beyond my patience and interest to offer anymore help.

You have received many offers of help and advice, referrals to reference materials, patient decoding of your often difficult understand posts. You have to want to improve, and more importantly, you have to Make The Effort.

I don't write this lightly, I try to offer help when I can, I remember very well all the benefit I got (and still get) from forum members when I took this hobby up about 18 months ago. I want others to have the same experience here. But those who seek the help do have to be willing to work at it. If not, it becomes a waste of time for all involved.

I do wish you well, and I hope you will take this as it is intended, a call to you to take advantage of the tremendous knowledge represented by the members of this forum. Nobody owes it to you to help, but you owe it to the people who do to apply the effort.

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#8 Post by MicroInspector » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:24 pm

The fit thin slicer reminds me of razor for shaving
In question if a shaving razor would work some have 3 blades.

Thinking it is worth a try
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#9 Post by mrsonchus » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:42 pm

Oh my, I think I can hear screaming - that's definitely me done here I'm afraid, I wish you luck MicroInspector. You've just surely read the post above yours - which I think was difficult to write, but - well - maybe you didn't read it....
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#10 Post by billbillt » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:57 pm

MicroInspector wrote:Maybe next if some one can make me 1 here from the forum.
And pay for it.

Next month....
I can't believe I am reading this!!..

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#11 Post by billbillt » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:58 pm

mrsonchus wrote:Oh my, I think I can hear screaming - that's definitely me done here I'm afraid, I wish you luck MicroInspector. You've just surely read the post above yours - which I think was difficult to write, but - well - maybe you didn't read it....
Good luck MicroInspector.
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#12 Post by MicroInspector » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:37 pm

Hey hey now,
I can get stuff for that did slicer,
But what with testing things out.
please most of research is based on testing.
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#13 Post by Crater Eddie » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:09 am

I think we are being trolled gentlemen.
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#14 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:28 am

Not trolling ok.
I have a real microscope and here for learning from others here
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#15 Post by carlh6902 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:03 am

Crater Eddie wrote:I think we are being trolled gentlemen.
I've been wondering the same thing, Crater Eddie.

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#16 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:08 am

Oh
Oh god,
Fine if you don't want me to post any more than I won't
share my photos of my finds
Because it is clear that I not wanted here,
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#17 Post by mrsonchus » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:20 am

carlh6902 wrote:
Crater Eddie wrote:I think we are being trolled gentlemen.
I've been wondering the same thing, Crater Eddie.

Carl
I now wonder if MI may have more than one persona in more than one place also? How curious. :?:
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#18 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:55 am

I think there is a virus on this website,
I thought I had friends on here..
:| :(
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#19 Post by Charles » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:01 am

mrsonchus wrote:
carlh6902 wrote:
Crater Eddie wrote:I think we are being trolled gentlemen.
I've been wondering the same thing, Crater Eddie.

Carl
I now wonder if MI may have more than one persona in more than one place also? How curious. :?:
I had that suspicion quite a while ago. Seems MI and another member are pretty similar but with MI being the alter-ego of the other.

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#20 Post by mrsonchus » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:48 am

Charles wrote:
mrsonchus wrote:
carlh6902 wrote:
I've been wondering the same thing, Crater Eddie.

Carl
I now wonder if MI may have more than one persona in more than one place also? How curious. :?:
I had that suspicion quite a while ago. Seems MI and another member are pretty similar but with MI being the alter-ego of the other.
Yes, I begin to suspect this, very strange. Too many inconsistencies in grammatical and textual construction when compared with persona at times. Almost a 'targeted clarity' I begin to ponder? Strange, if this is the case then this pathogen is a voracious feeder at a fast-food store at the moment....
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#21 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:53 pm

FYI , some times repling online by smart phone is not easy ok.
note asking about sonethingl is not trolling.

is what you got hear is interpretation of information
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#22 Post by gekko » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:00 pm

- Recently you showed a picture through your microscope of what you called "algue". That was a good start. I think it showed cells of duckweed or some other aquatic plant.
- I had suggested that you look at insect wings (fly, mosquito, or whatever you can find). I also suggested looking at hairs: you can compare human, cat, and dog hairs for example. Those are not boring: you will see many details that you cannot see without a microscope.
- You can also try looking at a bird feather if you find one.
- The thin membrane that you peel off a garlic or onion (garlic or onion skin) is another interesting thing to look at: you can look at it unstained, then add a drop of iodine and look again.
- You can look at cheek cells: with a Q tip, wipe the inside of your mouth and then wipe it on a slide, cover it with a cover glass, and look at the epithelial cells. Then add a drop of iodine to stain the nucleus and look again.
Lots of stuff to look at that is easy to obtain without cutting thin sections.

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#23 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:46 pm

I.just happen to find small feather
Are interest to see what it looks like from the M82EZ?
You know when I found great spiecemens like water flea and that other creature I though it would surprise you.

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#24 Post by gekko » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:33 pm

Yes, I think some of us would like to see it and to see how well the new Carson adapter works.

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#25 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:45 pm

Ok and how about some more canal water life forms?
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#26 Post by gekko » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:54 pm

MicroInspector wrote:Ok and how about some more canal water life forms?
How about concentrating on one thing at a time: why don't you take several pictures of the feather that you found, post the best one so we can see what it looks like. If you get comments from forum members, then use those comments to try to get a better picture of the same feather, and keep practicing until you get a really good image. I know this is not going to be easy (I still cannot get really good images), but it is a challenge to try.

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#27 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:06 pm

Well this smartphone camrea has a lot of futoins
1 is shot and more that picks the photo
I have to do photo test. On the feather.
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#28 Post by billbillt » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:18 pm

FOREVER AND A DAY.

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#29 Post by MicroInspector » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:23 pm

What does that mean really?
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