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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#31 Post by cpsTN » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:11 pm

I have already been to the xmission.com website for other things and, Yes, from what I've seen so far it is a great resource. I will go back and look for the things that have been specified above. As far as the axillary lens in the condenser, how will I know whether it's there or not by looking at it? The microscope arrives this afternoon. I should have it by the time you read this. Will PM the three of you when it is unboxed. Thank you all for all of the help that you have given so far, especially with the catalog numbers. They help tremendously.
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#32 Post by apochronaut » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:34 pm

cpsTN wrote:I have already been to the xmission.com website for other things and, Yes, from what I've seen so far it is a great resource. I will go back and look for the things that have been specified above. As far as the axillary lens in the condenser, how will I know whether it's there or not by looking at it? The microscope arrives this afternoon. I should have it by the time you read this. Will PM the three of you when it is unboxed. Thank you all for all of the help that you have given so far, especially with the catalog numbers. They help tremendously.
On the bottom of the # 1087 condenser, there will be either one of two things. 1) 2 holes or 2) a lens that swings in and out horizontally, in a little black surround with a handle attached. If the lens is not there, when you find one, it attaches to one of the two holes with a screw and washer and the other hole holds an adjustable cam stop. There are 6 parts required. 1 lens, 1 cam, 2 screws, 1 collar washer, and 1 spacer washer. I will do my best to help you with this , if your condenser does not have one , already.

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#33 Post by cpsTN » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:24 pm

apochronaut wrote:
cpsTN wrote:I have already been to the xmission.com website for other things and, Yes, from what I've seen so far it is a great resource. I will go back and look for the things that have been specified above. As far as the axillary lens in the condenser, how will I know whether it's there or not by looking at it? The microscope arrives this afternoon. I should have it by the time you read this. Will PM the three of you when it is unboxed. Thank you all for all of the help that you have given so far, especially with the catalog numbers. They help tremendously.
On the bottom of the # 1087 condenser, there will be either one of two things. 1) 2 holes or 2) a lens that swings in and out horizontally, in a little black surround with a handle attached. If the lens is not there, when you find one, it attaches to one of the two holes with a screw and washer and the other hole holds an adjustable cam stop. There are 6 parts required. 1 lens, 1 cam, 2 screws, 1 collar washer, and 1 spacer washer. I will do my best to help you with this , if your condenser does not have one , already.
Am I to take this to mean that the lens swings out so it can be used when needed, with a 4x objective for instance, and swung out when not needed?
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#34 Post by rnabholz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:27 pm

Yes, that is correct

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#35 Post by billbillt » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:34 pm

cpsTN wrote:I have already been to the xmission.com website for other things and, Yes, from what I've seen so far it is a great resource. I will go back and look for the things that have been specified above. As far as the axillary lens in the condenser, how will I know whether it's there or not by looking at it? The microscope arrives this afternoon. I should have it by the time you read this. Will PM the three of you when it is unboxed. Thank you all for all of the help that you have given so far, especially with the catalog numbers. They help tremendously.
Please post here when it arrives!.. I am interested in what you do here.. I have a similar AO stand..

The Best,
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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#36 Post by cpsTN » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:19 pm

billbillt wrote:
cpsTN wrote:I have already been to the xmission.com website for other things and, Yes, from what I've seen so far it is a great resource. I will go back and look for the things that have been specified above. As far as the axillary lens in the condenser, how will I know whether it's there or not by looking at it? The microscope arrives this afternoon. I should have it by the time you read this. Will PM the three of you when it is unboxed. Thank you all for all of the help that you have given so far, especially with the catalog numbers. They help tremendously.
Please post here when it arrives!.. I am interested in what you do here.. I have a similar AO stand..

The Best,
BillT
It is supposed to arrive tonight, 01/26/17. I will posted here then.
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#37 Post by billbillt » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:30 pm

Thanks!..

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#38 Post by cpsTN » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:12 am

The 801 10 has arrived and everything looks great especially the Optics. I can't seem to get any any pictures on here either of the scope or through the eyepiece because no matter how small I get them even if it's less than 512k it says it's too big. So I guess they just don't want anyone posting pictures.
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#39 Post by billbillt » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:14 am

cpsTN wrote:The 801 10 has arrived and everything looks great especially the Optics. I can't seem to get any any pictures on here either of the scope or through the eyepiece because no matter how small I get them even if it's less than 512k it says it's too big. So I guess they just don't want anyone posting pictures.
I think it has to do with the horizontal and vertical size rather than the digital size.. Maybe try and resize some more?

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#40 Post by 75RR » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:20 am

I can't seem to get any any pictures on here either of the scope or through the eyepiece because no matter how small I get them even if it's less than 512k it says it's too big.
Could be size. If it isn't, try opening a free account in:
https://secure.photobucket.com/login
or
https://imgur.com/signin?invokedBy=regularSignIn
and put a direct link in your post here.

Place the link in between the "Img" placemarks that appear when you press the "Img" button in the bar above.
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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#41 Post by cpsTN » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:36 pm

The AO110 has arrived and it's more scope and I thought it was going to be. I have questions about the condensers. The dark field condenser seems to be too dark regardless of how bright the Illuminator the setting is. Also, the screws that hold the bright-field condenser in place don't seem to be needed for the dark field condenser. Also the dark field condenser seems to have its own holding screws in place so do I just put it in and it stays there? Also, since the condenser height is adjustable to a large degree, I don't know where to put it when I'm viewing. Do I just experiment with different heights and different diaphragm openings until I get the best view or are there guide lines? I will look into those options as far as the pictures are concerned, and post some HERE soon.
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#42 Post by 75RR » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:08 pm

Also, since the condenser height is adjustable to a large degree, I don't know where to put it when I'm viewing.
Condenser should be nearly at the top of its vertical range, about 1mm or 2mm below the slide.
When you set up Köhler correctly that is where the field diaphragm will be in focus.

Can't help with the rest as I do not own an AO

Do try and get the images working, it is sometimes helpful to show what one is referring to.
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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#43 Post by rnabholz » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:20 pm

If you follow the procedure for Kohler, your brightfield condenser will be perfectly positioned.

That same procedure will also address proper diaphragm settings, both field and condenser.

In order to get an image with the darkfield condenser, it MUST be oiled to the slide, so obviously it will be positioned very close to the slide.

For darkfield your field diaphragm will be wide open.

To use any objective with a NA higher than about 60, will require a funnel stop in the objective or one with an iris.

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#44 Post by cpsTN » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:24 pm

Cool. I suppose the condenser height is adjustable only to allow for it's removal? I'm not used to such high-quality optics. I went up to the 100x objective and everything was in focus and easily visible. There was no problem at that power at all. This might sound like a dumb question, but am I really seeing this object at 1000x. I just quickly went to it to see how it looked. I didn't use oil. I thought nothing would come into focus without the oil when using an oil objective. Regardless, oil or not, it seems too easy to reach focus at 1000x. I am skeptical.
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MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#45 Post by 75RR » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:31 pm

I suppose the condenser height is adjustable only to allow for it's removal?
It does need some adjusting but that is why it has such a large range.

Total magnification = Objective magnification x Eyepiece magnification.

You will get an image with the 100x if you do not oil it, just not a very good one.
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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#46 Post by zzffnn » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:04 pm

Darkfield condenser needs to be perfectly centered, using those adjustment screws. If off too much, image will be very dark.

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#47 Post by apochronaut » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:46 pm

Sounds like you have the wrong DF condenser. The condenser should have AO 1096 written on it, There should be no adjustable part on the condenser at all. All of the adjustments are in the substage carrier.
Post a picture of it.

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#48 Post by cpsTN » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:08 pm

AO 110
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MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#49 Post by cpsTN » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:40 pm

apochronaut wrote:Sounds like you have the wrong DF condenser. The condenser should have AO 1096 written on it, There should be no adjustable part on the condenser at all. All of the adjustments are in the substage carrier.
Post a picture of it.
I have a terrible history of getting photos onto this site. They are either too tall, too short, too wide, too fat, too something. I managed to get a link to Facebook on my last post to show the microscope itself but now I can't seem to do it again for the condenser. And I'm not going to go through the hassle of uploading to another website just to occasionally show photos here so I don't know what to do. This is the only site I have any trouble putting photos on.
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#50 Post by apochronaut » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:44 pm

cpsTN wrote:
apochronaut wrote:Sounds like you have the wrong DF condenser. The condenser should have AO 1096 written on it, There should be no adjustable part on the condenser at all. All of the adjustments are in the substage carrier.
Post a picture of it.
I have a terrible history of getting photos on this site or other to their other too tall to short too wide to fap to something. I managed to get a link to Facebook on my last post to show the microscope itself but now I can't seem to do it again for the condenser. And I'm not going to go through the hassle of uploading to to another website I'm just to occasionally show photos here so I don't know what to do. This is the only site I have any trouble putting photos on.
You have my email. Charles. Send a picture there.

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#51 Post by 75RR » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:27 pm

And I'm not going to go through the hassle of uploading to another website just to occasionally show photos here so I don't know what to do.
Sorry to hear that.
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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#52 Post by cpsTN » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:40 pm

75RR wrote:
And I'm not going to go through the hassle of uploading to another website just to occasionally show photos here so I don't know what to do.
Sorry to hear that.
I had a site I was usibg but it's nor working now. I need to try agsin or change sites. My scope image came out okay from Facebook but the other one didn't work that way.
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Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#53 Post by cpsTN » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:51 pm

apochronaut wrote:
cpsTN wrote:
apochronaut wrote:Sounds like you have the wrong DF condenser. The condenser should have AO 1096 written on it, There should be no adjustable part on the condenser at all. All of the adjustments are in the substage carrier.
Post a picture of it.
I have a terrible history of getting photos on this site or other to their other too tall to short too wide to fap to something. I managed to get a link to Facebook on my last post to show the microscope itself but now I can't seem to do it again for the condenser. And I'm not going to go through the hassle of uploading to to another website I'm just to occasionally show photos here so I don't know what to do. This is the only site I have any trouble putting photos on.
You have my email. Charles. Send a picture there.
PM it to me because I can't seem to find it anymore.
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#54 Post by Crater Eddie » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:56 pm

cpsTN wrote:AO 110
content://media/external/file/17722
This link doesn't do anything.
I think a lot of us here use Photobucket. It is very easy to use.
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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#55 Post by apochronaut » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:46 pm

cpsTN wrote:
apochronaut wrote:
cpsTN wrote:
I have a terrible history of getting photos on this site or other to their other too tall to short too wide to fap to something. I managed to get a link to Facebook on my last post to show the microscope itself but now I can't seem to do it again for the condenser. And I'm not going to go through the hassle of uploading to to another website I'm just to occasionally show photos here so I don't know what to do. This is the only site I have any trouble putting photos on.
You have my email. Charles. Send a picture there.
PM it to me because I can't seem to find it anymore.
I sent you an email to your yahoo address. Now you have mine.

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#56 Post by apochronaut » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:05 am

received the pictures, Charles.
As I suspected your condenser is a 214F , which was made for the
earlier series of microscopes, the 10/20 series. They can be made to
work with a little fiddling on a 100 series, usually and are an excellent condenser but
the correct condenser # 1096 is a little better and provides a full
field, down to the 20X objective..
>

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#57 Post by cpsTN » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:34 am

75RR wrote:
I suppose the condenser height is adjustable only to allow for it's removal?
It does need some adjusting but that is why it has such a large range.

Total magnification = Objective magnification x Eyepiece magnification.

You will get an image with the 100x if you do not oil it, just not a very good one.
I am aware of how the math works. I was asking because I'm not used to 1000x being so easy to view as far as focus, brightness and FOV.
Charles Sands
Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#58 Post by 75RR » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:55 am

Regardless, oil or not, it seems too easy to reach focus at 1000x. I am skeptical.
Did not mean anything by that. It was just the use of the word skeptical that prompted me to state the formula.
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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#59 Post by cpsTN » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:34 pm

I apologize. I did not mean anything by what I said either. I realize now, after reading it, that it must have sounded rude. The reason I was skeptical is because with the lower-grade scopes that I'm used to using, 1000x was always dubious at best, dim, not the greatest focus and hard to maintain. So, when I saw that 1000x with the AO was so easy to reach and see, I didn't believe that I had that magnification at first. I don't need 1000x very often, but it's nice to know it's there when I can use it. For me, 450 or 500x (both which I have, 50x oil with iris) is more than enough.
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Murfreesboro, TN 37129

MICROSCOPES:
AO 110
...objectives, infinity:
10x plan #1021
45x achro #1116
50x plan, oil iris #1016
100x plan, oil #1024

Amscope SE305, Stereo
...objectives: 1x, 3x
...EPs: 5x, 10x, 15x

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Re: AO 110 opportunity!

#60 Post by 75RR » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:51 pm

No problem. You have by all accounts an excellent microscope there, in as you say a different league from your previous one and at a very good price.
Hope you have finalized the transaction, you don't want the owner changing his mind and asking for it back :)
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