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Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:26 pm
by mrsonchus
Hi all, a few images to share.
As most know, my area is Botanical, but I've been rummaging through some rarely-opened drawers and boxes in my lab with a view to tidying-up (or at least trying to...).
Anyway I found an old slide with Diatoms on it that I must have acquired with some of the old mixtures I occasionally buy just to 'have a look'... They're not arranged, but are in a 'big mixed slab' as it were, in what I think those here call a 'strew'?

Here are a few images, all with a little PP - mainly a light sharpen and 'cleanup' of the rather mucky background. Using a dry 60x 0.9 objective - I don't have the glorious DIC (couldn't get close to affording this I'm afraid) that produces such incredibly sharp images often seen here, but with brightfield, a little oblique, addidtion of a green 550nm interference filter and shooting in mono, I'm happy-enough with these few.
I don't know the ID/s of these but do plan to add some measurements of their features today; any ideas appreciated.

First one - apologies for the relatively basic images....
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Oblique makes this one look concave - I've no idea if this is simply an artefact or an accurate representation of the Diatom's form?
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Same type I think.....
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Here's a broken one, again no ID I'm afraid.
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A bit of oblique/darkfield.
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Not sure of the accuracy again of the apparent structure, but interesting.
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Measurements - hopefully correct....
UPDATE - WRONG MEASUREMENT - TOO SMALL BY FACTOR OF 4! SORRY.... SEE LATER REVISED VERSION.
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Another nteresting view - is the form real though, or an artefact of capture and PP?
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Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:07 pm
by Hobbyst46
Very nice images !
The distance of 2.98 um indicates a very high density of stria (~39/10um).

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:03 pm
by 75RR
Picking up some very nice detail - the dark side will get you yet!

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:31 pm
by mrsonchus
75RR wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:03 pm
Picking up some very nice detail - the dark side will get you yet!
ARRRGGHHHHH! Never - leaves for ever! (although these Diatom-thingies are quite nice...)

Thanks both for your comments.

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:09 pm
by MicroBob
Hi John,
with a tungsten carbide knife it might be possible to section them and very little work has been done on staining them! :D

Bob

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:36 pm
by mrsonchus
MicroBob wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:09 pm
Hi John,
with a tungsten carbide knife it might be possible to section them and very little work has been done on staining them! :D

Bob
Help-me!
Bob, you are bonkers! :D

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:49 pm
by mrsonchus
Aha! I thought the measured diatom was a little small....

I think I must have cropped the image while PP.
Here's what I think is the uncropped and correctly-measured version - 4x the size at 80+µ (oops :oops: )
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Anyone have any ID ideas please?

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:51 pm
by mrsonchus
Hobbyst46 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:07 pm
Very nice images !
The distance of 2.98 um indicates a very high density of stria (~39/10um).
I think you're right! It seems I may well have cropped this one during PP - see revised measurement of 85µ....

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:07 am
by mrsonchus
Here's another one - trying-out ToupView's measuring features again.
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Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:40 am
by Hobbyst46
Cheers!

The first one (the elongated) looks very much like Navicula digitoradiata

Longueur : 88 microm.
Largeur : 13,8microm.
10-11 stries / 10 microm.

(from a collection of Mediterranean diatom photos).

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:24 am
by mrsonchus
Hobbyst46 wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:40 am
Cheers!

The first one (the elongated) looks very much like Navicula digitoradiata

Longueur : 88 microm.
Largeur : 13,8microm.
10-11 stries / 10 microm.

(from a collection of Mediterranean diatom photos).
Looks very, very like it Hobby' - here's a link with a good likeness...
It also seems to have an appropriate (species) name!

Many thanks!

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:31 am
by Hobbyst46
Thank you, John B for the link to this BC site!
It helps a lot to see diatoms as found by simple optical microscopy, together with their ID.
Page saved.

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:14 pm
by mazo4033
Beautiful photos!

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:02 pm
by Sabatini
Very pleasant images

Re: Old Diatom Slide From Drawer

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:28 pm
by mrsonchus
Many thanks all, very kind comments. :D