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#1 Post by gekko » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:21 am

Five different images of a diatom (40x objective). From the top: brightfield, darkfield, phase contrast, cross polarized light, DIC.

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#2 Post by kit1980 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:20 am

Thanks, nice comparison!

This seems to confirm my noobish understanding that phase contrast may be good for seeing inner details, but doesn't produce very attractive images.
And DIC is really nice!
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Re: One diatom, five images

#3 Post by gekko » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:29 am

Thank you very much, kit1980!
kit1980 wrote:This seems to confirm my noobish understanding that phase contrast ... doesn't produce very attractive images.
I predict that you'll arrive at the opposite conclusion after you examine the phase contrast images of, for example, KurtM, rnabholz, or 75RR!

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#4 Post by zzffnn » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:20 am

I like the brightfield, pol and DIC.

Was that darkfield done with DIC stop, or dedicated immersion darkfield condenser? Was the sample a bit thick....

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#5 Post by vasselle » Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:03 pm

Bonjour gekko
Très belles technique des différents éclairage de microscopie
Merci pour le partage
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#6 Post by KurtM » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:30 pm

gekko wrote:
kit1980 wrote:This seems to confirm my noobish understanding that phase contrast ... doesn't produce very attractive images.
I predict that you'll arrive at the opposite conclusion after you examine the phase contrast images of_________!
Oh, I wouldn't say it's about who makes the image, but more a matter of the subject at hand. Some things respond better than others to phase contrast, and the same is true for every other illumination mode. And besides being more or less subject-dependent, there are also other variables, such as sample thickness for instance.

I absolutely love phase contrast, but guess what? That opinion isn't universal, and there are others who can live without it. Which suggests some personal preference may be involved as well, if you can imagine that.
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#7 Post by Radazz » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:48 pm

Beautiful images.
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#8 Post by hkv » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:12 pm

Very good comparison!
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Re: One diatom, five images

#9 Post by rabitt » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:48 pm

I Think as a comparison for us newbies they are excellent photos, gives us a good idea of the differences between them.

A question that crossed my mind is, which photo would you use as the most realistic to show someone who has no idea
what a diatom is or looks like? Just Food for thought, I pick bright field.

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#10 Post by 75RR » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:06 pm

Always a pleasure to see a variety of illumination techniques with a single subject. Thanks
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#11 Post by billbillt » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:11 pm

These turned out very good!..

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Re: One diatom, five images

#12 Post by gekko » Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:53 pm

zzffnn, thank you. The darkfield stop was the "DF" position of the phase contrast condenser.
seb, many thanks.
Kurt, I fully agree with you, but to my way of thinking, the microscope operator is equally, if not more important: to a large degree the final product is a result of good (or not so good) judgement on the operator's part. For example, judgement is involved in choosing the aperture and the plane of focus, as well as the position of the DIC slider.
Radazz [/b, hkv, rabitt, 75RR, and BillT, many thanks for your comments.
rabitt, I agree with you: I think in general, brightfield (and also oblique) may be the best. This is also true, I think, when posting images requiring identification.

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