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Surprise from the ice

#1 Post by Crater Eddie » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:01 am

After weeks of temps in the teens and single digits (F that is), the last few days have warmed up above freezing, with today's high a balmy 53°F. My favorite pond is still ice covered of course, but with a thin layer of water on top of the ice.
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Here and there I found small patches of algae emerging from the ice.
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So of course I had to bring a sample home and take a peek.
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Re: Surprise from the ice

#2 Post by JimT » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:57 pm

CE, nice find. Glad you didn't fall in while collecting the algae :)

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#3 Post by KurtM » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:49 am

JimT wrote:Glad you didn't fall in...
Dunno why not, he'd have just bounced right back out. :shock:

Kidding, of course. :lol: Very neato pics, thanks for posting! I've never seen a frozen pond before, so really got a kick out of those shots. Is it enough to support the weight of a person? How do you go about finding out -- like, say, for ice skating and that sort of thing? I always wondered that. I love these reports from the north, and learning about other places people live in.
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Re: Surprise from the ice

#4 Post by Crater Eddie » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:46 am

:lol:
A couple of weeks ago the ice on my dad's pond was about 6 inches thick. That is plenty thick to support the weight of a person. There is a "rule of thumb" for how thick the ice should be to support people and vehicles, but I have forgotten.
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Re: Surprise from the ice

#5 Post by vasselle » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:59 pm

Bonjour
Très belle image
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Re: Surprise from the ice

#6 Post by JimT » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:07 pm

There is a "rule of thumb" for how thick the ice should be to support people and vehicles, but I have forgotten.
Two inches (53mms) to support one (small) person but I am not going to try it.

Eight inches (21 Cms) for a small car. Problem is the ice is not uniform across the lake. Oops :o

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Re: Surprise from the ice

#7 Post by apochronaut » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:39 pm

The county I live in, is very quickly being Hamptonized but until about 10 or so years ago, a service club of one of the towns in the western end, which very soon should be called North Hampton, hosted a competition. They would haul out a derelict car onto a lake which the town had shoreline on and people would pay to bet on the date and hour, it would fall through. The money would go to various good causes. The decades old practice was cancelled because people were concerned that the car, which was always drained of fluids and which was duly retrieved, would contaminate the shallow lake. Anyway, we have lots of urbanites now, and lots of complaints to the spca about cows laying out in snowstorms, covered in snow etc. etc. "MY GOD, Colin, phone the humane society, those cows have frozen to death in that man's yard" . My Sheltie, I had years ago, used to willingly lay out in snowstorms to the point where you could barely see him.

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#8 Post by KurtM » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:30 am

Again, very interesting (glad it doesn't get that cold here, BRRR!!). So back to the pond, say you need two inches or whatever (I'm going with 6 feet, myself), how do you determine the thickness? People ice skate on ponds don't they? I know ice fishing on lakes is a thing, and they even haul little shelters out there. Man, that's nuts. Frozen water outside of major kitchen appliances just ain't natural...
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Re: Surprise from the ice

#9 Post by apochronaut » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:04 am

Not natural! fridges are for sure...... You actually have to measure it in various places and factor in snow, drifting and freezing/thawing periods in order to extrapolate measurements to places not measured. There are usually announcements attached to weather reports, regarding ice conditions for ice fishermen, snowmobilers. In ones own environmant, experience helps and some careful testing. After a certain number of years in a northern temperate environment, you get a sixth sense, though, as to whether the ice will be strong enough to bear your weight.
There are lots of accidents. Ice fishing huts going through, snowmobilers going through. Even hikers or skiers going through. It's all common sense, like checking the depth of the water before you dive in.

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