Nikon Optiphot 66 Questions: Part 2
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Nikon Optiphot 66 Questions: Part 2
On to the next part: Lighting and control!
Taking the base apart, I see nothing but mayhem: I guess the lighting and stage control were strictly customized for wafer inspection.
All the same, whatever's left looks to be in decent shape: the dimmer switch doesn't grind, diaphragm, glass, and reflector are all smooth and clean, and even the fuse is still in its receiver, despite many of the connections being simply snipped off.
Might anyone have the wiring diagram for the optiphot line? I'd like to retrofit to LED lighting, but still use the rocker selector switch, dimmer, and base as much as possible.
Part 2 subsection 1:
The fine-focus wasn't working, so I took it apart and found the plastic reduction gear was split and unmoored to the focus shaft: 20 minutes of cleaning and some superglue and I saved $60 by not buying the kit. I guess broken fine-focus is a thing with these microscopes!
Taking the base apart, I see nothing but mayhem: I guess the lighting and stage control were strictly customized for wafer inspection.
All the same, whatever's left looks to be in decent shape: the dimmer switch doesn't grind, diaphragm, glass, and reflector are all smooth and clean, and even the fuse is still in its receiver, despite many of the connections being simply snipped off.
Might anyone have the wiring diagram for the optiphot line? I'd like to retrofit to LED lighting, but still use the rocker selector switch, dimmer, and base as much as possible.
Part 2 subsection 1:
The fine-focus wasn't working, so I took it apart and found the plastic reduction gear was split and unmoored to the focus shaft: 20 minutes of cleaning and some superglue and I saved $60 by not buying the kit. I guess broken fine-focus is a thing with these microscopes!
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Might anyone have the wiring diagram for the optiphot line?
I never learned schematic generating software, but have a wiring list here:
https://blekenbleu.github.io/microscope ... ase-wiring
EPI Optiphot base wiring hacks may have been provoked by
12V for 100W universal vertical illuminator vs 6V for 20W diascopic base.
Rather than restoring original wiring, supposing 12V DC input,
consider eliminating that power resistor and either:
- replacing 6V lamp with 12V lamp
- installing a current-limiting buck converter, e.g.
.. replacing its 10-turn potentiometer with the Optiphot's control.
A current limiter makes subsequently replacing halogen lamp with LED a slam dunk.
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Thanks Blenkenbleu....conversion to 12v LED is certainly the plan. Would like to use existing plugs and dimmer switch, though.
Does your dimmer control both transmitted and epi lighting?
Does your dimmer control both transmitted and epi lighting?
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The original base provides 6V power by this connector:
Understandable, but 12V 100W vertical illuminator uses a different connector: There are some situations where both diascopic and episcopic illuminationWould like to use existing plugs and dimmer switch, though.
may be wanted simultaneously...
No, mine still have original Optiphot 6V power with 20W lamp for diascopicDoes your dimmer control both transmitted and epi lighting?
but 12V power and lamp for episcopic.
The front control switched AC power,
but its potentiometer cannot directly control power,
instead controlling bias to the power transistor on the heat sink.
This linear 60Hz supply is much less efficient
than higher frequency PWM LED supplies.
For LED illumination, I use a 10W U`King B93 RGBW LED pin spot.
Resolution improves by using only e.g. green illumination.
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I'll have to replace the potentiometer with some kind of PWM dimmer; shouldn't be too hard to find and modify it to fit.
I have a couple of high-end philips 12v LED bulbs on order. Those will also be re-jiggered to fit available space.
Now, to find the male version of this goofy electrical connector!
I have a couple of high-end philips 12v LED bulbs on order. Those will also be re-jiggered to fit available space.
Now, to find the male version of this goofy electrical connector!
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Beware that many LEDs set to work at 12V are non-dimmable.Sure Squintsalot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:15 pmI have a couple of high-end philips 12v LED bulbs on order.
Since the Nikon base includes frosted glass in the illumination path,
a multi-chip LED should work.
Nikon's mount limits G4 lamp height to < 23mm.
Nikon did not even standardize on that receptacle for 12VDC;Now, to find the male version of this goofy electrical connector!
its regular Optiphot has a 2 prong receptacle used for 110VAC in the U.S.:
It seems easier to replace it with a socket
compatible with many 12V supplies which have a 2.1 x 5.5 mm barrel plug,
e.g. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L4LNSJV
Here is such a socket with 5A rating:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FK6MMGH
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An Optiphot-66 diascopic base (6V 20W) turns out to be more similar to that for regular Labophots than Optiphots (12V 50W).Sure Squintsalot wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 10:17 pmMight anyone have the wiring diagram for the optiphot line? I'd like to retrofit to LED lighting, but still use the rocker selector switch, dimmer, and base as much as possible.
Here are more details, including images, for an unmolested Labophot base: https://lavinia.as.arizona.edu/~mtuell/ ... 20base.php
An Optiphot-1 base might fit into the Optiphot-66 casting, providing 12V at 50 Watts for either episcopic or diascopic work.
Sadly, distance from an Optiphot-1 50W lamp housing to substage field lens centerline is about 220mm,
where nearer 290mm is needed for a 50W lamp housing to clear an Opitphot-66 base casting.
Perhaps some optics from a universal vertical illuminator could be repurposed
for a 50W lamp housing with an Optphot-1 50W base under an Optiphot-66..?
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Thanks Blekenbleu...
I've seen those U of A pages too and simply decided to completely circumvent the legacy system altogether. I see no point in restoring an inferior technology. However....
After extensively researching and finding the perfect 12V bulb, a Philips ExpertColor 95+CRI with a really good spectrum, I found that I could not dim the bulb without spending stupid money on a commercial (non-household) dimming system. Nonetheless, I slammed it in "just to see" and got some pretty good first light. I'll post photos after I find the patience to resize 30Mb photos to less than 50kb.
I was on the verge of pulling the trigger on my own LED+driver+lens+PS+dimmer/controller build, when someone was practically giving away a lab-grade LED system with controller and cables. So, now I'm waiting for that to arrive before getting back under the chassis. In the meantime I'm happy to have everything back together working, more or less, as I expected.
I've seen those U of A pages too and simply decided to completely circumvent the legacy system altogether. I see no point in restoring an inferior technology. However....
After extensively researching and finding the perfect 12V bulb, a Philips ExpertColor 95+CRI with a really good spectrum, I found that I could not dim the bulb without spending stupid money on a commercial (non-household) dimming system. Nonetheless, I slammed it in "just to see" and got some pretty good first light. I'll post photos after I find the patience to resize 30Mb photos to less than 50kb.
I was on the verge of pulling the trigger on my own LED+driver+lens+PS+dimmer/controller build, when someone was practically giving away a lab-grade LED system with controller and cables. So, now I'm waiting for that to arrive before getting back under the chassis. In the meantime I'm happy to have everything back together working, more or less, as I expected.
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Thanks for identifying Philips' ExpertColor; I found this claim ofSure Squintsalot wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:57 amAfter extensively researching and finding the perfect 12V bulb, a Philips ExpertColor 95+CRI with a really good spectrum, I found that I could not dim the bulb without spending stupid money on a commercial (non-household) dimming system. Nonetheless, I slammed it in "just to see" and got some pretty good first light. I'll post photos after I find the patience to resize 30Mb photos to less than 50kb.
"over 94% identical to halogen light colour, compared to about 60% with standard LED lights"
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs ... n-2017-05/:
Having so highly optimized those LEDs for compatibility with existing commercial 12VAC dimmers is indeed disappointing.
I would like to see how MR16 was adapted to the Optiphot.
On Windows PCs, I find IrfanView Lanczos resampling expedient for image resizing,
with a good tradeoff between minimizing blur and sharpening artifacts.
https://www.irfanview.com/
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Unlike regular Optiphots, Labophot (and Optiphot-66) diascopic base lacks provisions for Köhler filament alignment,Sure Squintsalot wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 10:17 pmOn to the next part: Lighting and control!
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I guess the lighting and stage control were strictly customized for wafer inspection.
with a lamp diffuser buried in the base and without either lamp focus or alignment adjustments,
making them ideal candidates for LED upgrades.
Regular Optiphots also have a more elaborate field lens.
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So....here's how I threw in that Philipps LED light:
The LED has a built-in driver, relatively tight spread angle, and a quasi-fresnel front end. Luckily, it's about the same diameter as the frosted lens/heat shield assembly: A dremel and some careful grinding made quick work of fitting the lamp into the holder: Finding a holding mechanism was the hardest part. There's not a lot of room at that end of the base to accomodate the bulb, much less a "plumbers solution". Finally figured out how to fashion a couple of low-profile clips from some poster frame spring metal hardware: Not done yet....that lamp still wasn't in the clear, and some of that microscope had to disappear. TGFD! (Thank God For Dremels): And....there it is:
The LED has a built-in driver, relatively tight spread angle, and a quasi-fresnel front end. Luckily, it's about the same diameter as the frosted lens/heat shield assembly: A dremel and some careful grinding made quick work of fitting the lamp into the holder: Finding a holding mechanism was the hardest part. There's not a lot of room at that end of the base to accomodate the bulb, much less a "plumbers solution". Finally figured out how to fashion a couple of low-profile clips from some poster frame spring metal hardware: Not done yet....that lamp still wasn't in the clear, and some of that microscope had to disappear. TGFD! (Thank God For Dremels): And....there it is:
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A quick re-assembly and found "Musk Illumination": super bright and super white across the entire field of view. Here's the thermal test, 5 minutes at full power:
When used properly, with correct epi-illumination, the imaging is pretty top-notch. An early 90s era AMD CPU at 1000x:
Some caveats about this LED lamp. Despite the excellent light quality: High CRI and brightness, I can't dim it. It's an industrial light made to be fitted in large numbers into high end hotel lobbies and product display cases. Dimmers for this light run in the hundreds of dollars and run off 220V/470V supply. Running them individually wasn't easy either; they take a 12VAC, 1amp wall wart. Not a 12VDC power supply of which there are billions on the planet right now, but 12VAC, of which there are less than a dozen in North America. So.....there's that.The reconnection to the EPI/DIA switch was easy enough, but the power supply doesn't really run the standard filament bulb very well, so I just use the switch for simple on/off of the diascopic illuminator:
Here's some first light images of some tight folding in a slate in crossed pols (L) and crossed pols with 1/4 wave plate (R), FOV= 2mm(?). Without the sub-stage condenser, you can really see how out of focus the edges get with these objectives:
It was hugely fun to look at thin sections I hadn't looked at in 40 years! When used properly, with correct epi-illumination, the imaging is pretty top-notch. An early 90s era AMD CPU at 1000x:
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I think that the Nikon UN transformer, which may be powering your EPI illuminator, has a 12VAC transformer.Sure Squintsalot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:15 pmthey take a 12VAC, 1amp wall wart. Not a 12VDC power supply of which there are billions on the planet right now,
but 12VAC, of which there are less than a dozen in North America
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