Overhead lighting for compound scope (T720Q)

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Overhead lighting for compound scope (T720Q)

#1 Post by dswtan » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:40 am

I have an Amscope T720Q. Sometimes I'd like to examine non-transparent objects, and I don't want to stretch to a dedicated stereo scope yet. Is there a best practice way to do this, such as an appropriate ring light adapter or goosenecks?

Is there a specific solution that others have tried on such Amscopes that works well? Is there even a ringlight that could actually work (single objective lens only I guess), or it must be goosenecks?

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#2 Post by Greg Howald » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:16 am

I think it depends upon the objectives used. A gooseneck will do the job for 4, 10, and 20x. Above that in my experience you will be lucky to get anything to work due to lack of space between the objective and the specimen. I've heard of perfectly aiming a laser pen light at the edge of the slide for oblique lighting but I've never tried it..
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#3 Post by MicroBob » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:13 am

Hi, for the lower powers one or two IKEA Jansjö lamps do a good job. To even out illumination a table tennis ball an be cut in half and a hold for the objective can be added.

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#4 Post by Greg Howald » Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:47 am

That's an interesting comment. The half ball would act as a parabolic to focus the light. Sounds cool.
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#5 Post by Chas » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:56 pm

Use scissors as much as you can when cutting the ping pong ball --or they will turn blood red.

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#6 Post by MichaelG. » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:09 pm

Greg Howald wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:47 am
That's an interesting comment. The half ball would act as a parabolic to focus the light. Sounds cool.
Greg
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Well actually, no ... a hemispherical surface makes a rather poor job of focusing

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#7 Post by 75RR » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:22 pm

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This is an example of a ping-pong ball in use:

https://www.microbehunter.com/microscop ... 145#p29145

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#8 Post by Chas » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:53 pm

Half of half ping-pong balls are sometimes easier to get into position 'after the event'
[That is a bit of a wooden skewer attached with holt-melt on the right hand side one]
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#9 Post by Chas » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:11 pm

.... and if you are trying to photograph discreet unmounted things eg small dead insects, you could try putting them into the bottom of a half-ping-pong ball ... this can be rested on a microscope-slide sized piece of plastic or cardboard with a round hole cut into the middle and lit from the side
(with a jansjo light ..sadly, no longer available):
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this gives quite a reasonably softish lighting:

Weevil parasitoid inside ping pong half.jpg
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The ping pong balls are really just to soften the lighting and so avoid really bright reflections that come directly from the light source
The back plastic slide used in the photo to hold the ball was actually a microscope watch-glass holder that was being made and sold on eBay by a 3D printing person. I have just looked, but I dont see them for sale any more.

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#10 Post by Greg Howald » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:01 am

That's a really good result. I'll have to try it. I really like such experimentation.
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#11 Post by DonSchaeffer » Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:22 am

I use 2 focused flashlights mounted on stands to direct beams virtually parallel to the stage at the subject. This lighting improves shadows and builds the topology of the subject using the 60x objective.

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#12 Post by dswtan » Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:56 pm

Thank you everyone for your kind replies - great ideas!

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#13 Post by iconoclastica » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:16 pm

Wouldn't you rather mix in some transmitted light so the background turns white, instead of inside-of-pp-ball-coloured?

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