Diatom Illumination Experiment
Diatom Illumination Experiment
In a recent discussion found here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3552 there was interest expressed in seeing the effects of various illumination techniques on diatoms.
Tonight I set out to see if I could provide some images for comparison.
As per the discussion, the test would include Brightfield, Darkfield, Phase Contrast, Oblique and I added one more, a van Egmond mask.
The target was a Gyrosigma, approximately 140µm in length, mounted in Pleurax.
In order to accomplish all of the techniques I had to move across three stands. In all cases the images were shot using 100x Oil Plan Achro objectives, oiled to the slide, with the slide oiled to the condenser. All were taken with a Canon 70D, and are single frames. Images were cropped and resized to 900 pixel width, levels were tweaked and unsharp mask was applied with the same parameters for all images.
These are the set ups for each illumination type.
Brightfield and Phase Contrast: AO 20, 100x Oil Phase Contrast Plan Achro.
Darkfield : AO 10, Ortho-Illuminator, 100 Oil Iris Plan Achro, 214 Darkfield Condenser.
Oblique and van Egmond Mask: AO One Ten, 100x Oil Iris Plan Achro.
Please let me know what you think.
Rod
Tonight I set out to see if I could provide some images for comparison.
As per the discussion, the test would include Brightfield, Darkfield, Phase Contrast, Oblique and I added one more, a van Egmond mask.
The target was a Gyrosigma, approximately 140µm in length, mounted in Pleurax.
In order to accomplish all of the techniques I had to move across three stands. In all cases the images were shot using 100x Oil Plan Achro objectives, oiled to the slide, with the slide oiled to the condenser. All were taken with a Canon 70D, and are single frames. Images were cropped and resized to 900 pixel width, levels were tweaked and unsharp mask was applied with the same parameters for all images.
These are the set ups for each illumination type.
Brightfield and Phase Contrast: AO 20, 100x Oil Phase Contrast Plan Achro.
Darkfield : AO 10, Ortho-Illuminator, 100 Oil Iris Plan Achro, 214 Darkfield Condenser.
Oblique and van Egmond Mask: AO One Ten, 100x Oil Iris Plan Achro.
Please let me know what you think.
Rod
Last edited by rnabholz on Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:11 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Really nice effort! I was surprised to see how big of difference each illumination technique actually made. I think the brightfield and the phase contrast show the most detail, really sharp and crisp.
All images are very well done considering they are not stacks! Great single image capture for all of these.
Thank you for sharing and putting in the effort to show us the difference!
All images are very well done considering they are not stacks! Great single image capture for all of these.
Thank you for sharing and putting in the effort to show us the difference!
Karl
AO21 with Canon M3
AO21 with Canon M3
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Great job, Rod!
For 100x oil objective though, dots on Gyrosigma are not small enough (Frustulia or Nitschia would show more difference between illuminations). As a result, most illuminations worked well and difference was small. I expect phase and DIY van Egmond may not be able to resolve Frustulia to dots.
For 100x oil objective though, dots on Gyrosigma are not small enough (Frustulia or Nitschia would show more difference between illuminations). As a result, most illuminations worked well and difference was small. I expect phase and DIY van Egmond may not be able to resolve Frustulia to dots.
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Thanks McC,McConkey wrote:Really nice effort! I was surprised to see how big of difference each illumination technique actually made. I think the brightfield and the phase contrast show the most detail, really sharp and crisp.
All images are very well done considering they are not stacks! Great single image capture for all of these.
Thank you for sharing and putting in the effort to show us the difference!
Glad you found it interesting. The Gyrosigma is nice and flat and makes a nice target.
Thanks for the interest.
Rod
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Well I will have to see if I can round up another target.zzffnn wrote:Great job, Rod!
For 100x oil objective though, dots on Gyrosigma are not small enough (Frustulia or Nitschia would show more difference between illuminations). As a result, most illuminations worked well and difference was small. I expect phase and DIY van Egmond may not be able to resolve Frustulia to dots.
Rod
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Thanks for this rnabholz - very interesting comparison.
If you are planing another test I would not go for Frustulia , punctae are silly small.
In any case test was not for resolution but to see what each illumination technique revealed.
Thanks again
If you are planing another test I would not go for Frustulia , punctae are silly small.
In any case test was not for resolution but to see what each illumination technique revealed.
Thanks again
Zeiss Standard WL (somewhat fashion challenged) & Wild M8
Olympus E-P2 (Micro Four Thirds Camera)
Olympus E-P2 (Micro Four Thirds Camera)
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Wait ... what...?75RR wrote:... test was not for resolution but to see what each illumination technique revealed.
VERY cool Rod, you sure know how to pack a world of value into one affordable and easy to digest package! You get an Uber Geek for this one.
Cheers,
Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67904872@ ... 912223623/
Kurt Maurer
League City, Texas
email: ngc704(at)gmail(dot)com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67904872@ ... 912223623/
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
This test seems to have revealed some useful data.. Thanks for sharing!...
BillT
BillT
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Glad you found it interesting, I did too. The same rays of light, manipulated and producing different results. Amazing to think about, and taken for granted by most.75RR wrote:Thanks for this rnabholz - very interesting comparison.
If you are planing another test I would not go for Frustulia , punctae are silly small.
In any case test was not for resolution but to see what each illumination technique revealed.
Thanks again
Thanks
Rod
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Thanks Kurt. I accept the Uber Geek on behalf of all geeks everywhere....KurtM wrote:Wait ... what...?75RR wrote:... test was not for resolution but to see what each illumination technique revealed.
VERY cool Rod, you sure know how to pack a world of value into one affordable and easy to digest package! You get an Uber Geek for this one.
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Thanks Bill, glad you found it useful.billbillt wrote:This test seems to have revealed some useful data.. Thanks for sharing!...
BillT
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Interesting comparison and very nice images.
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Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Rod,
The brightfield image seemed to my uneducated eyes to be the sharpest and clearest. You write that you oiled the condensers to the slide: Other than the darkfield condenser what other condenser(s) were you using?
And thanks for going to the bother of posting all these. Such comparisons are always interesting.
Jim
The brightfield image seemed to my uneducated eyes to be the sharpest and clearest. You write that you oiled the condensers to the slide: Other than the darkfield condenser what other condenser(s) were you using?
And thanks for going to the bother of posting all these. Such comparisons are always interesting.
Jim
Re: Diatom Illumination Experiment
Thanks Gekko.
The brightfield and phase images were done with the 1201 phase condenser.
The oblique and van Egmond images were through the 1094 Flip Top condenser.
Rod
Thanks Jim.apatientspider wrote:Rod,
The brightfield image seemed to my uneducated eyes to be the sharpest and clearest. You write that you oiled the condensers to the slide: Other than the darkfield condenser what other condenser(s) were you using?
And thanks for going to the bother of posting all these. Such comparisons are always interesting.
Jim
The brightfield and phase images were done with the 1201 phase condenser.
The oblique and van Egmond images were through the 1094 Flip Top condenser.
Rod