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Caloneis amphisbaena and Mystery

#1 Post by rnabholz » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:03 am

Another nice Caloneis and a new one that I cannot ID yet. It is possible that this is a girdle view and that is what is leading me astray, but it sure is a real beauty! Any ideas or help on the ID is very welcome.

AO 10, Ortho Illuminator, 100x Oil iris, 214 darkfield condenser, Canon 70D Single frames
Caloneis amphisbaena  74µm
Caloneis amphisbaena 74µm
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Mystery Diatom  54µm
Mystery Diatom 54µm
Diatom 0156.JPG (78.9 KiB) Viewed 4152 times

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#2 Post by vasselle » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:23 am

Bonjour
Très belles séries images
Cordialement seb
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#3 Post by rnabholz » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:19 am

vasselle wrote:Bonjour
Très belles séries images
Cordialement seb
Merci beaucoup Seb.

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#4 Post by molehill » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:16 am

rnabholz nice images, BTW is your 70D on a stand separate from your microscope or attached to the microscope?
When I tried my new 70D last year the results where not good it vibrates in a way the 40D doesn't even in silent mode.

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#5 Post by rnabholz » Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:59 pm

Mine is attached directly.

The only issues I have seen were related to the stability of my bench to touches by me during exposure.

I originally had a 60D, which I discovered was quite bad with vibration. The 70D is much, much quieter in that respect.

The 70D seems to be working well.

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#6 Post by mrsonchus » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:20 pm

Superb pictures Rod, both are fascinating. :)
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#7 Post by KurtM » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:30 pm

Hmmm, looks familiar ... why, a lot like the bright field shot molehill posted yesterday. He was calling it possible Achnanthidiun, although I haven't been able to find much on it.

See: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3350

At any rate, it's a great image, and if it's a single frame, must be pretty flat. Where's exmarine when ya need him???

EDIT: Just ran across Rhopalodia gibba, shows possibility: http://westerndiatoms.colorado.edu/taxa ... odia_gibba
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#8 Post by rnabholz » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:55 pm

KurtM wrote:Hmmm, looks familiar ... why, a lot like the bright field shot molehill posted yesterday. He was calling it possible Achnanthidiun, although I haven't been able to find much on it.

See: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3350

At any rate, it's a great image, and if it's a single frame, must be pretty flat. Where's exmarine when ya need him???

EDIT: Just ran across Rhopalodia gibba, shows possibility: http://westerndiatoms.colorado.edu/taxa ... odia_gibba

By golly, I think you have it! The only thing that is a question is the length, mine at 54um doesn't get to the low end of size range of 75 to 205 they quote, but let's just call mine an underachiever.

Also note that they say it is often seen in girdle view. Now that I know what I am looking at, I am pretty sure I have seen this in valve view as well in this sample.

Well played Kurt. Thanks

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#9 Post by KurtM » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:18 pm

That makes two that I am quickly becoming fascinated by (this week): Rhopalodia gibba and the Amphora genus, as they both seem to have been elusive of ID mostly due to the unusual trait of being seen most often in girdle view(?). I'm not too concerned about the small size ... and like you say, it's probably just a little bitty baby diatom, how cute!

Kociolek, P. (2011). Rhopalodia gibba. In Diatoms of the United States. Retrieved July 06, 2016, from http://westerndiatoms.colorado.edu/taxa ... odia_gibba

Spaulding, S. (2011). Amphora. In Diatoms of the United States. Retrieved July 06, 2016, from http://westerndiatoms.colorado.edu/taxa/genus/amphora

PS: I think I'll start C&P'ing the Cite This Page info, as above, instead of just the URL to give proper credit to an incredible resource.
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#10 Post by rnabholz » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:47 pm

That girdle view thing does make it hard on a guy....

Amphora ovalis was reasonably common on some of those slides I sent you, and seen in both orientations. That was how I first stumbled on the concept of girdle vs valve views. Not that I have readily incorporated it into my ID process, it still tends to be a last resort consideration. I think that is because most references don't include girdle views unless it is commonly seen.

Agree about citing link. I would be lost without that site.

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#11 Post by rnabholz » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:39 pm

mrsonchus wrote:Superb pictures Rod, both are fascinating. :)
Thanks John

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#12 Post by gekko » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:54 am

Both are beauties, with images to match.

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#13 Post by rnabholz » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:43 pm

Thanks Gekko

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