Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Hi all, I've been slide-surfing with the big-O and giving the x63 Fl 160mm 0.95 objective a run-out. Looking over some un-labelled slides I came across one of Sonchus.oleraceus ('Smooth Sow-Thistle' - a common weed in the UK) pollen, sectioned at 4µ and stained with Safranin (for the nuclei) and Fast-Green (for everything else....), permanently mounted in 'Omnimount' resinous mountant.
Anyway I had a go at using a green filter over the light-source before setting custom WB with the Canon 1200D used, and stacking 5 images to try to get as much information from the slide as I could. The idea being that the green filter would increase detail and contrast, while the PP may help further by converting to B & W then inverting - always good to bring out details I find. Also I rather rashly added an 'emboss' effect just to see what it looks like.
Here are a few pictures, quite a lot of detail has indeed been revealed re the structure of the grains, both of the external 'Exine' - the spiny case that covers these grains, and the internal nuclei of this almost-mature (micro) gametophyte - the first nucleus. the large 'tube nucleus' that builds the pollen-tube is there of course, also two sperm nuclei are seen - although only one discrete cell exists - it just has three nuclei!
Here are a few images you may find interesting,
This is the 'normal' as-on-slide image that has good exine detail, and after a rather dodgy application of emboss.... Another 'normal' stained-slide image that shows the three nuclei, stained red by the Safranin stain used, Here after 'some treatment' - see what you think about detail enhancement, I can definitely see some, Finally here's a section that is right through the middle of a grain (these grains are bout 30µ in diameter and are sectioned here at 4µ. This is an 'equatorial plane' which shows some very nice geometry of the grain, better than a whole grain focused to the equatorial plane in this respect.... I like this slide as it has about 200 such grains within and I'm going to put it back into my 'keeper' slide cases...
Great fun to dig-out the old 'waste slide' boxes and have a look at them - you never know what's in there. Hope you find these interesting - just a small exercise this evening to practice with the Orthoplan!
John B
Just found an old post that features this slide! Also a nice 15µ slide that really shows the 3D exine structure well,
here's the link --> Original post with this slide
Anyway I had a go at using a green filter over the light-source before setting custom WB with the Canon 1200D used, and stacking 5 images to try to get as much information from the slide as I could. The idea being that the green filter would increase detail and contrast, while the PP may help further by converting to B & W then inverting - always good to bring out details I find. Also I rather rashly added an 'emboss' effect just to see what it looks like.
Here are a few pictures, quite a lot of detail has indeed been revealed re the structure of the grains, both of the external 'Exine' - the spiny case that covers these grains, and the internal nuclei of this almost-mature (micro) gametophyte - the first nucleus. the large 'tube nucleus' that builds the pollen-tube is there of course, also two sperm nuclei are seen - although only one discrete cell exists - it just has three nuclei!
Here are a few images you may find interesting,
This is the 'normal' as-on-slide image that has good exine detail, and after a rather dodgy application of emboss.... Another 'normal' stained-slide image that shows the three nuclei, stained red by the Safranin stain used, Here after 'some treatment' - see what you think about detail enhancement, I can definitely see some, Finally here's a section that is right through the middle of a grain (these grains are bout 30µ in diameter and are sectioned here at 4µ. This is an 'equatorial plane' which shows some very nice geometry of the grain, better than a whole grain focused to the equatorial plane in this respect.... I like this slide as it has about 200 such grains within and I'm going to put it back into my 'keeper' slide cases...
Great fun to dig-out the old 'waste slide' boxes and have a look at them - you never know what's in there. Hope you find these interesting - just a small exercise this evening to practice with the Orthoplan!
John B
Just found an old post that features this slide! Also a nice 15µ slide that really shows the 3D exine structure well,
here's the link --> Original post with this slide
John B
Re: Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Yes Sir, John B.!!... You have done it again!... Another wonderful series of an interesting subject!..
BillT
BillT
Re: Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Nice work, John B.
I wonder how "emboss" works in post processing. If it works as the name suggested, it may overemphasize thin stained areas with textural relief, while ignoring thick transparent areas?
I wonder how "emboss" works in post processing. If it works as the name suggested, it may overemphasize thin stained areas with textural relief, while ignoring thick transparent areas?
Re: Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Hmm, I don't know zz' - an interesting question. I would be a pretty good exercise to look into these PP techniques in an organized way sometime, as they clearly have a place when the main criterion is the revelation of details for taxonomic comparisons for example...zzffnn wrote:Nice work, John B.
I wonder how "emboss" works in post processing. If it works as the name suggested, it may overemphasize thin stained areas with textural relief, while ignoring thick transparent areas?
Even the closely related Sonchus oleraceus and asper species show quite a lot of morphological difference in their pollen - not radically so but quite evident under close scrutiny. It's not easy however to get comparable views of the respective grains, hence the adoption I suppose of the 'std' views such as the polar-plane, sectioned or not.
It's a really interesting area, in fact the first I ever tried when I started with microscopy - everyone is easily able to get some pollen onto a slide for a good initial run-out of their 'scope!
This is also a good time of year for Botany the UK as everything is just starting to come out now - early Spring here...
Thanks for looking my friend, John B
John B
Re: Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
What is your x63 objective please?
Re: Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Hi, that objective (sold back in 2019 together with a superb Orthoplan when I upgraded to an Olympus BX40) was a surprisingly good performer. The Orthoplan is nominally a 170mm TL 'scope and the 63x is a 160mm TL objective for use with the smaller, later 160mm Leitz models I believe.
Anyway, as I've always wanted to be able to reach-in a little further than 40x whilst not taking the observation over to oil-immersion, with just about every 'scope capable I've looked for some kind of 60x-ish objective.
As I say this nice 63x Fl 0.85 worked rather well with the Orthoplan and filled said niche for me quite nicely.
Here are a couple of images of it from 2019,
and
John B
Re: Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Thanks for your explanation. Yes, I agree with you, it is a great performer. Images are pretty detailed with above-average resolution.
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Re: Dragging detail from pollen sections - filters & PP
Great microscopy!!