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Upgrading My Microscope (Help Please)
May 30, 2014
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I have become more fascinated by microbiology and am really wanting to upgrade my microscope.  Currently I own a Home Science Tools "Home Microscope" (Here) that I bought a few years back.  It isn't a horrible microscope and have allowed me to view some pretty awesome things, but I would love to upgrade to something a little … stronger?

 

I was looking at the AmScope T490B-DK 40X-2000X Trinocular Compound Darkfield Microscope (Here).  I looked at videos and did some looking into it and it seems rather nice.  Does anyone have experience with this specific microscope or anything similar?  I have never messed around with darkfield before but it is something I would like to dabble in.

 

I can't say I am looking for a microscope that does anything specific since I am still rather new to microbiology.  I just want something that gets into finer detail than the one I currently have.  I am also a fan of having a spot for a camera so I can use something other than my cellphone for photographs.  :P

 

- Nikki

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May 31, 2014
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Hello Nikki,

I will try to give you my opion (but hope that others might provide other perspectives.  I've not used the Amscope, but my understanding is that it should be good.  Unlike your current microscope, it does have a standard condenser (essential for adequately controlling the illumination).  It does not have plan or semiplan objectives, but for pond water critters that should not matter (plan achromats, or even semiplan, wiould be better if you were taking photographs of thin sections so that most of the field of view would be simultaneously in focus).  Amscope appear to have a wide range of closely graded models, so which one to buy depends on how much you want to spend.  I hope others who have other or more informed opinions will chip in.  Used Zeiss, Leitz, Olympus, or Nikon microscopes would be better made, but buying used involves risks (e.g., damaged, malfunctioning, or missing parts) and it is not clear to me that image quality will be any better.  You can check Vasselle's very beautiful images on this forum– he uses a Bresser microscope (both Bresser and Amscope are rebranded Chinese microscopes and my guess is that they are likely to be of comparable quality). 

May 31, 2014
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Hi Nikki,

When I took up the microscopy hobby last fall and started reading in forums such as this one, again and again I saw conversations about whether someone new to the hobby should start out with new scope of Chinese manufacture (Amscope, Omax) or buy a used scope from one of the major brands (Zeiss, Olympus, Nikon, Leitz). As gekko pointed out in his informative reply, there are risks with the used scopes. On the forums, the more experienced members tended to recommend buying the name brand scopes, even though they might be 30 or more years old. I finally decided that the risks of buying old microscopes weren't very high for experienced microscopists as they were savvy enough to choose wisely and skilled enough to repair problems these scopes might have. I wasn't experienced or savvy, so I chose to buy a scope very similar to the Amscope you mentioned. I bought an Omax trinocular with a dry darkfield condenser (Link) and an Amscope MU300 USB camera. The main difference between the one I bought and the one you mentioned is that mine uses an LED light source instead of a halogen source. I wanted a cooler light that didn't heat up the pond critters as much. Amscope makes a model with an LED source almost identical to my Omax.

I don't regret my choice as it provided me with hours of enjoyable viewing. Everything worked. The mechanical stage is a huge improvement over the scope you are using now, as is binocular viewing and a trinocular tube for a camera.

But here's the rest of the story. I thought it would be fun to get what I called a "project" microscope; a name brand scope that I could fiddle with and maybe restore to full functionality. I bought a Nikon Labophot for $79 on eBay. When I got the Labophot, I found that it had no light score and the fine focus was shot. I could write a book about what happened next, but suffice it to say that I now have another Labophot and an old Leitz. I ended up making an LED light source for the Labophot and getting a phase contrast condenser for it. (I bought two phase condensers due to a failed attempt to repair the first one I bought.)

I rarely use the Omax now days. 95% of my viewing time is with the Labophot. The controls (stage and focus) work more smoothly than the Omax and my homemade LED light is stronger than the one in the Omax. There's nothing wrong with the Omax, it just isn't quite as enjoyable to use. (I'll make you a great deal on the Omax if you live near Cincinnati.)

In summary, in my opinion, buying the Amscope will give you a scope that is MUCH more fun to use than what you have now. If you want to tinker a bit, and are tolerant of a bit of risk, shop on eBay for a used name brand scope. Stick with highly rated seller who offer a return policy. Either way, for about $500 you can get a big upgrade and a USB camera to play with.

 

Regards,

Bill

June 1, 2014
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Thank you both for the reply.  :)

 

At this point I don't think I have nearly the skills needed to repair a used microscope so a new one is really what I am looking for right now; but I am pretty sure when I do get a better grasp and understanding of a microscope itself I will be all over buying something better and used.  I think I might look for something with an LED light instead, though.  I like the idea of not heating up the little critters I gather as much, lol.

 

Vasselle has some beautiful photos.  I would love to get similar results to his; but then again who wouldn't? lol.

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Nikki:

 

I will add my two cents worth on buying a new microscope as opposed to a used scope.

 

I started out refurbishing an old Bausch & Lomb compound microscope with new condenser and Plan objectives. The B&L worked fine until I required better lighting and positioning of the specimen using a mechanical stage.

I opted for a Labomed CxL monocular with LED light source. The CxL is a reasonably priced microscope at less than $500.00 with good optics and solid construction.

 

What I do not recommend is buying a microscope from a dealer outside of your country. The shipping practices of many carriers frequently result in a damaged microscope. Returning the damaged product is far more costly than what you paid for the original shipping.

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June 2, 2014
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Hi Nikki,

The QCC has a good point there, but there may be a solution to this problem.

I recently bought an Amscope Stereo zoom trinocular microscope with a fiberoptic lightsource from an American eBay dealer named

"precision*world". When the scope arrived It was flawlessly Packed ( sent overseas to Israel, no small thing) with form fitting cast polystyrene padding.  The scope was pristine and optics were quite good ( no Leica or Olympus, mind you, but I wasn't paying for those….).  

When It turned out that theit warehouse sent me the wrong voltage for the fiberoptic, they send me a new unit with the proper voltage at no additional cost to me.  I think that's commendable !

The company resides at Irvine CA and they may  have a warehouse in the US. ( Check that to verify).  If they do have a warehouse in the USA, You can return any faulty unit at relatively low cost.

Regarding Amscope microscopes, from all rumors I've heard their microscopes are quite good  (for the price) and they also have many compatible accessories for their scopes ( Check their website). 

I am putting here a link to one of their microscopes ( not the one you wanted ) just to make it easy for you to find their eBay store.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141299614678

 

You can take it from there by asking them any questions you want.

I hope this helps.

P.S. – I have no interest in  or any affiliation with either Amscope or Precision-World. – I am just a happy customer.Laugh

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June 4, 2014
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Hi Nikki,

Fortunately a microscope will last a lot longer than buying a computer..  However, the choice to upgrade is of course dependent on your budget, objectives (no pun intended) and needs.  You can usually find a good used microscope that may bridge the gap until you are ready for an upgrade – if budget is an issue.  Best.

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